Rollo Tomassi

They think of me as like Rollo Tomasi, the co-host of Access Vegas.

And I get it because that's just what we have to do to stay in the public light.

But what I think they're more afraid of is that we might actually have a fucking point.

We actually might have something to say about this stuff.

We actually might have, we might change some people's minds about it.

We might actually save some people's lives as a result of this.

And if we do, then that makes us a bit more legitimate than just being these caricatures, these straw men that they need to knock down all the time to build a brand off of.

And as I'm fond of saying is if there is no boogeyman, then nobody gets paid.

So if the boogeyman goes up on behind the podium and Oxford university, and he sounds like a road scholar, then suddenly you have a different opinion of the guy.

And, um, the reason I'm sort of harp on that a little bit is because when I had gone on Dr. Phil back in 2021, I think that that's what they were expecting from me.

They were expecting me to be some sort of frothing at the mouth, you know, uh, misogynist who couldn't stand the sight of a woman or something like that, rather than a guy who's been happily married for almost 30 years.

and has you know essentially made a life's work out of out of the books and the ideas that i put forth and to the point where it's like i've got you know i've got an answer for everything and they weren't expecting that and i don't think a lot of other people are expecting that either because they need you to be that cartoon character because if you don't they don't get paid was that an ambush i didn't watch that episode on was it like four people just no i was so it was a it was uh

I think it was sort of, um, a buildup to ridicule the manosphere and it didn't work out the way they wanted.

And I knew I kind of going in, I knew that that's how it was going to work.

Um, when the producers of the Dr. Phil show, um, originally approached me, they wanted Tate, they wanted Andrew Tate.

And I said, well, I will try to get him if I can.

Cause I had his number.

I was talking to him.

And Andrew wouldn't set foot in the United States.

And so I said, then they asked me, he said, well, can we get him on Skype or can we get him on Zoom or something like that?