Rollo Tomassi

So when I...

When I hear people talking about the manosphere today, you know, post-adolescence and post, you know, well, we've got real men's issues kind of thing.

Nothing that I'm hearing right now is new.

It's the same stuff I was talking about in 2021.

It's the same stuff I've been talking about since 2012.

Yeah.

And so it's not, there's nothing novel about it.

But the, I think the problem is, is that a lot of people think that the manosphere begins and ends with Andrew Tate and Pearl Davis or fresh and fit.

And it's like, no, that's fresh and fit.

Didn't really get the ball rolling until 2021.

I've been doing this since 2004.

So, um, so to, um,

To build up or to talk about topics and things that people think are novel right now is kind of like, well, you don't have the background in this to really know what you're talking about.

But people, it's what I call confident ignorance.

They're very confident in their ignorance.

They know what they're talking about.

I know you don't because if you did, you would realize just how old school this stuff is.

So...

mike and i did mike actually talked me into this too i i wasn't going to do this because i'm always very careful about um doing documentaries and talking to quote-unquote you know mainstream media and press but these guys weren't that it's the the company that's producing this docu-series uh is called rebel media um they are a very professional outfit um they they do uh they've done other shows and series before

Um, they asked Mike and I to do interviews and originally it was about simping, you know, like how do, how do we stop simping?