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I'm kind of down with that.

It doesn't happen a lot, but every once in a while.

Yeah, clearly.

None of those words are there.

So it's one of those good reasons.

Yeah, yeah.

And in the past, this has been used because the states were bad actors in this case, or these counties were doing racist things to stop people from voting.

And therefore, the long history of that has made it so that you have to check with us if you change anything.

But that's not the case when it comes to however people think these states are misbehaving today when it comes to immigration.

Okay.

Yeah, I find myself feeling more or less into states' rights, depending on the subject.

To tell you the truth, it's fair.

So that's all of Article 4 and a little bit of the 10th Amendment, which relates to it.

Cool.

This is awesome.

Thanks so much.

When we come back, California Attorney General Rob Bonta talks about the powers granted to the states under the Constitution and how California is using the courts to push back against the Trump administration.

And now our conversation with California Attorney General Rob Bonta.

Since Trump took office in January of last year, California has sued the administration more than 50 times, about a rate of one lawsuit a week.

Courts have found in the state's favor about 80% of the time, although many of those decisions are from lower courts.