Roman Yampolsky
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first heard Jun 2024
last heard Jun 2024
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So they have to be novel illusions. If it can just Google the answer, it's useless. You have to come up with novel illusions, which we tried automating and failed. So if someone can develop a system capable of producing novel optical illusions on demand, then we can definitely administer that test on significant scale with good results.
There is so much data on the internet. I know exactly what to say. Then you ask me common human questions. What does pain feel like? What does pleasure feel like? All that is Google-able.
There are simulators for torture games where the avatar screams in pain, begs to stop. I mean, that was a part of kind of standard psychology research.
Welcome to humanity.
Incredible technology in a narrow sense to help the disabled. Just amazing support at 100%. For long-term hybrid models, both parts need to contribute something to the overall system. Right now, we are still more capable in many ways, so having this connection to AI would be incredible, would make me superhuman in many ways. After a while, if I'm no longer smarter,
more creative, really don't contribute much, the system finds me as a biological bottleneck. And either explicitly or implicitly, I'm removed from any participation in the system.
Wasting valuable energy by being there.
That's the future we all dream about. Become an appendix to the history book of humanity.
I assume you are conscious. I have no idea how to test for it or how it impacts you in any way whatsoever right now. You can perfectly simulate all of it without making any different observations for me.
So it may be an emergent phenomena. We seem to get it through evolutionary process. It's not obvious how it helps us to survive better, but maybe it's an internal kind of GUI, which allows us to better manipulate the world, simplifies a lot of control structures. That's one area where we have very, very little progress.
Lots of papers, lots of research, but consciousness is not a big area of successful discovery so far. A lot of people think that machines would have to be conscious to be dangerous. That's a big misconception. There is absolutely no need for this very powerful optimizing agent to feel anything while it's performing things on you.
I attended Wolfram's summer school.
So the rule is simple, but the size of a space is still huge. And the neural networks were really the first discovery in AI. A hundred years ago, the first papers were published on neural networks. We just didn't have enough compute to make them work. I can give you a rule such as start printing progressively larger strings. That's it. One sentence. It will output everything.
Every program, every DNA code, everything in that rule. You need intelligence to filter it out, obviously, to make it useful, but simple generation is not that difficult, and a lot of those systems end up being Turing-complete systems, so they're universal, and we expect that level of complexity from them. What I like about Wolfram's work is that he talks about irreducibility.
You have to run the simulation. You cannot predict what it's going to do ahead of time. And I think that's very relevant to what we are talking about with those very complex systems. Until you live through it, you cannot ahead of time tell me exactly what it's going to do.
But running it may be consequential as well.
It may somehow, but I still feel kind of bad that it killed all of us. I would prefer that doesn't happen. I can be happy for others, but to a certain degree.
So all of it goes back to are we somehow controlling it? Are we getting results we want? If yes, then everything's possible. Yes, they can definitely help us with science, engineering, exploration, in every way conceivable, but it's a big if.
It's actually worse because historically they all died. This could be different. This could be permanent dictatorship, permanent suffering.
And those systems help with that. You have perfect surveillance. You can do some mind reading, I presume, eventually. It would be very hard to remove control from more capable systems over us.
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