Romesh Ranganathan

And I used to watch his shows and I'd want him to stop talking because...

And so I always thought I want that to be what people's experience is when they come to my shows.

But then when you start off doing stand-up, you're so desperate to make people laugh.

You will say anything.

You know, you're just desperate to make people laugh.

You're just like, you know, you'd be waggling your glasses and like...

And all that, because you're just so desperate to make them laugh.

I mean, that's the job.

Yeah, but then as you get more experience, you sort of go, well, making people laugh, it's not easy, but it becomes easier.

And so then you go, well, now I'd like it to be...

something where I'm standing by the substance of what I'm talking about.

Not at the expense of... I don't want to give... I'm not smart enough to give anybody a lecture about anything.

But when you watch stand-ups that are really funny, there is some... They're letting you into their world and they're showing you the way they think about things.

And it's like there's something you take away from it.

Do you know what I mean?

Ooh, nice.

You are.

That is going to... Because what's happened is I then panicked about how to respond to that.

Because actually the truth is that I'm not.

He's incredible.