Ron Magill

And I think it's almost like a childlike curiosity that they're checking it out. They're very curious about it.

I can't give you an exact example. I can tell you how dolphins tend to navigate and how they tend to understand, you know, dolphin therapy, a lot of therapy for autistic children, nonverbal children. The way dolphins seem to be able to communicate and connect with those children to me is amazing. It's profoundly moving. I've seen that happen on several occasions.

I can't give you an exact example. I can tell you how dolphins tend to navigate and how they tend to understand, you know, dolphin therapy, a lot of therapy for autistic children, nonverbal children. The way dolphins seem to be able to communicate and connect with those children to me is amazing. It's profoundly moving. I've seen that happen on several occasions.

As a matter of fact, I've seen a child who wasn't quote unquote nonverbal actually become start verbalizing around a dolphin. And the dolphins seem to understand that there was a connection there. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.

As a matter of fact, I've seen a child who wasn't quote unquote nonverbal actually become start verbalizing around a dolphin. And the dolphins seem to understand that there was a connection there. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.

And when I say speak, I don't say come out with entire sentences, but start uttering sounds where they would not do that at all before. I've seen that happen on two different occasions to where the parents just burst out in tears. They couldn't believe what they were seeing. So there's a power there. There's a connection there.

And when I say speak, I don't say come out with entire sentences, but start uttering sounds where they would not do that at all before. I've seen that happen on two different occasions to where the parents just burst out in tears. They couldn't believe what they were seeing. So there's a power there. There's a connection there.

And I think when you look at the size of the brain of a dolphin, I mean, really relative to its size of the rest of the body, it's very, very similar to a human being.

And I think when you look at the size of the brain of a dolphin, I mean, really relative to its size of the rest of the body, it's very, very similar to a human being.

Well, you know, the octopus got a lot of big publicity with that movie that came out, the Oscar-winning movie, I think, My Friend the Octopus or something like that.

Well, you know, the octopus got a lot of big publicity with that movie that came out, the Oscar-winning movie, I think, My Friend the Octopus or something like that.

The Octopus Teacher, there you go. And they are incredibly intelligent as far as being able to navigate things the way they can change their color, the way they can camouflage, the way they can escape almost anything. I mean, you look at an octopus that's, you know, bigger than your fist, and it can get through an eighth of an inch of an opening area, and that's pretty incredible.

The Octopus Teacher, there you go. And they are incredibly intelligent as far as being able to navigate things the way they can change their color, the way they can camouflage, the way they can escape almost anything. I mean, you look at an octopus that's, you know, bigger than your fist, and it can get through an eighth of an inch of an opening area, and that's pretty incredible.

So they tend to be very... I guess, opportunistic. They're very resourceful. As far as solving puzzles and thinking the way a dolphin does, I just don't think the octopus is that intelligent. I think they're very intelligent.

So they tend to be very... I guess, opportunistic. They're very resourceful. As far as solving puzzles and thinking the way a dolphin does, I just don't think the octopus is that intelligent. I think they're very intelligent.

I didn't say they're as intelligent. I said they're not as intelligent as a dolphin.

I didn't say they're as intelligent. I said they're not as intelligent as a dolphin.

And I said it's not... in my personal opinion, is not as intelligent as a dolphin. Yeah, well, that's not exactly what you said. You said not that smart. No, that is exactly what I said. You stopped me when I said it's not as intelligent, okay? I didn't say the octopus is not intelligent. I didn't say that, Dan. Not that smart. Stop it. That's what you said.

And I said it's not... in my personal opinion, is not as intelligent as a dolphin. Yeah, well, that's not exactly what you said. You said not that smart. No, that is exactly what I said. You stopped me when I said it's not as intelligent, okay? I didn't say the octopus is not intelligent. I didn't say that, Dan. Not that smart. Stop it. That's what you said.

You just love this kind of controversy.