Ronan Farrow

And the unfortunate thing is that that stuff obscures the very real and very evidence based stuff.

And it is extreme.

I mean, people are spending money on like chasing each other around with private investigators while our future is in their hands.

Well, on the Thiel-Epstein connections, I have worked in the past on reporting about Epstein and institutions taking money from Epstein and hiding that in some cases.

I am still looking at some Epstein stuff without getting into details because I can never talk about reporting before it's fully baked and getting out there.

So I'm not going to get into specifics on the Epstein stuff.

I think the Peter Thiel anecdote just –

really underscores how powerful these guys are.

And the fact that someone like Thiel really has tendrils into everything.

And you wind up in a situation where a lot of the moguls in Silicon Valley have a shared playbook.

They have a shared ideology, even if many of them would say, well, I don't buy into all of this crazy stuff.

Peter Thiel is saying, you know, Peter Thiel is saying Greta Thunberg is the Antichrist and the Antichrist is coming.

And so a lot of these guys who are I don't want to describe the community monolithically because Sam is a different level of reasonableness than Elon.

And it's all very different than Peter Thiel.

But the influence of each of them is so complete and the financial incentives and the broader economic structures and the lack of oversight so readily facilitates the kind of power mania that Thiel exhibits.

and naturally leads to an endpoint that is in some ways anti-democratic, that that does seep across the whole community.

There is just less need for these guys to be accountable and these companies to be accountable.

And I think that's why this moment of AI becoming so important to all of our future

makes it a moment where we need a reckoning with that.

That is a big structural problem.