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And in that press conference can be like when they went to Billy to try and get a reaction, it's like, do you know who you're talking to?

Billy Slater, although he played with so much intent, he invented so many things, not just a head charge.

He kicked people in the face.

He slide tackled you when you were trying to score a try.

Like he knows what's going to happen in those moments.

Of course he was going to give grace to Kalen Ponga for doing his thing.

Like there's never going to be a reaction.

Billy was the first guy that turned really well though on those catches.

He used to end up facing the opposing way.

Controversial take also, there's rumours that Kalen Pong went to the judiciary and said that he actually was going for the shoulder charge and deliberately at the last second changed it to a head charge to protect Kola because he had a headgear on.

That's how good he is.

That's how good he is.

Bro, you know when you're wrong and someone goes to prove you're wrong and they go to show you evidence, I don't want to say, I don't believe it.

Where did it come from?

What the source was?

It's like he made the statement, he just had to die on it.

You've just told the bunker, who's probably got 4,000 TVs, like you said, 4K, he's watched 10 replays and you've just gone, nah, it was illegal.

This is a decision I'm making.

I think I saw him take his earpiece out at one point.

Can we confirm, because very smart minds in this podcast at the moment, can we confirm has a ref ever gone against the bunker like that?