Rory Farrell

So then once you take that pressure off of it, like,

Afraid to fail.

Then that's when the old wild and out games really just open up to it.

With Nick Cannon, because he's somebody that, you know, we don't talk about enough.

I think the platform that he's been able to build and, you know, make people a part of and help people's careers.

How how forthcoming is Nick when it comes to just those real conversations like that?

Away from the cameras.

100%.

Just as black men.

He ain't the type of person that's just going to say some shit just because it sound good to you, bro.

He'll flat out tell you, look, if you want to go to the next level, do this.

Hey, you ain't taking your career serious.

You don't have the right management.

You don't got the right people representing you.

You're not in the loop.

I'll never see you nowhere.

And he look at stuff like, how many spaces can you get yourself into without...

having to use somebody else's name or because your partner got you in.

It's like he wants to see you in the entertainment world.

And that's where he can really guide you and be like, okay, now you're serious because you're doing stuff on your own merit.