Rory O'Connor

And then every year, more talent was pushing the whole thing up.

And at the moment, it's very hard to get a grasp on where any of that is going.

But just can I, like I saw, when I saw the story, my first instinct was that just from a sporting, I have no idea the commercial sort of parameters.

I thought it was like a great idea.

To play France.

Yeah, the number of times that like France, because France do feel a little bit apart from the kind of, in the Six Nations.

And if they were world champions or something like that, can you imagine how up for the French rugby sort of thing would be?

And you also have these big club teams with lots of imports that could make the midweek thing more interesting.

No, you could, yeah.

Even the culture of rugby in France, when you go down south and down towards Basque country, there's a thing there.

Yeah, there is a thing there.

There's more of a thing there than there is in Australia.

Yes.

But that's a lion's variable anyway.

It is.

Yeah, yeah.

My heart went out to those people because the idea of your whole thing playing out in the public before you kind of get your get your kind of tentacles around it to prepare the people who are most directly affected.

It must be woeful.

Yeah, recently.

that was brutal that was brutal and the thing about it is when something like this happens and it becomes a public story in whatever way probably the best thing you can do which is the hardest thing to do would be to come out and sort of address it publicly but like who has it in them to do that with a time of sort of personal crisis when you're exposed so publicly yeah so that's the weird salacious backdrop to the NFL draft which is on over the weekend any other business