Rory O'Connor

you know, I'm potentially endangering the person that they're running into or tackling.

So I think that should always be at the core of what the RFU, what Sport Ireland and whoever's kind of responsible for this as well.

So I think that that needs to be looked at.

And I think the RFU should be putting pressure on Sport Ireland to do more in the interest of transparency and also saying, because they used to say that a zero tolerance approach to sport

to doping and that was held against them during the gerbrand groveler saga all those years ago i don't see that word as much when i look at their website but they do have very strong messages on their site about anti-doping so i hope they're living that as well

It is.

And I think it represents maybe a slide in the public consciousness of this whole issue, not just in rugby, but across sport.

I'm not sure people are as... I don't know, maybe they're beaten down, maybe they don't care as much, maybe they look at the world and they think it's not as much of a big deal.

I just don't know if there's as much...

focus going into it as there used to be or there should be and whether you know like it's definitely you could argue not in governing bodies issues to encourage it because you don't want to kill the golden goose but the WADA or the South African Institute for Drug Free Sport or whoever you know Sport Ireland in our case

they need to be really strong and really relentless in their pursuit of cheats because ultimately there are people playing by the rules who are losing out.

And in the case of South Africa, Ben Rumsby was getting absolutely pelted from South Africa for linking this drop in testing to the World Cup wins.

And that may have been a Telegraph sub who just saw a headline.

Because they would see it as casting aspersions where none should be a cast.

But

definitely there's a cloud there and they've struggled to shift that now within the game no one really talks about that that much but yeah I think the Craven Week stuff the number of school boys who've tested positive over the years there's definitely a cloud like they do have more rugby players than everyone else Springboks

I think maybe there are definitely recent examples at that level, which there isn't for other nations.

So that's definitely a big factor.

the Palestinian cause, I think he'd have a far easier time winning over certainly the fans of Spurs, although he'd have a massive footballing challenge there.

To go from, like he's kind of gone into big clubs in lesser, I don't like this phrase, lesser leagues, like they're national leagues in the countries they're in, but Ferencváros are,