Rory O'Connor

I did a year in Delaware.

I was all in Delaware.

I did a year in Delaware and I came back and I was in the marketing team and soon realized that this wasn't for me and I started freelancing and here I am.

Here you are.

You didn't do another career?

Yeah.

I think that explains the gravity of it as well.

Very, very well.

we're done you know but in our in in the the correspondence kind of like you know his is very private it's between his family it's kind of you know even the fact that he hasn't given his name which is you know completely respect whereas brooklyn breckham because he's been commodified from from the moment he was born if not before he has to do it like through a statement which is obviously i know you gave him great credit for writing it joe i'd be cynical about that i think you know he would have had handlers involved in writing it he may you know i wouldn't say there's a chance he sat down and

Certainly tonally, it didn't match up with what his kind of puts up on Instagram.

I'm sure the sentiment is his, but I'd say that the wording and the way it was delivered and the kind of impact, it was designed for maximum impact.

But that's the world he's always been in, that he has to do everything publicly.

I'm sure he... I don't know when he would have told, if he would have told his parents, but did they find out through the media?

But I guess that's the...

they're the ground rules he's always had is that his whole life is in the media so it's just this commodification of your children it's a dangerous game to play and like with our kids you put you put pictures up sometimes and you're like god was that the right thing to do and then you know you see people putting blocking their kids faces increasingly and stuff like that because they don't want

to have their digital footprint from a point where they don't like it's so complex and messy and like they're just the extreme of it and they're also kind of almost guinea pigs for it because they they blaze the trail so the sort of netball babies growing up to beat their parents at their own game this is where everything eats itself you know it has prompted um rud to your point a lot of discussion though about um

Yeah, look, I think you find hypocrisy in everything, don't you?

Yeah, kind of.

There's no other way they can actually try and have an influence or draw attention to it.

And this is a tangible thing where they can apply pressure, make a point.