Rory O'Connor

I think he was the captain of the 1999 Ulster team.

won the European Cup but he got injured and wasn't able to lift the trophy or play in the final certainly so he has you know he's one of the most successful Irish rugby coaches of any generation his CV is impeccable and if he was a New Zealander with that sort of CV he probably would be getting touted as

as a future Ireland coach and maybe that's a little bit of a reflection on how we view things I'd say there's a bit of the fact that he's from Ulster and that definitely plays into the way we look at things and that's on us to some degree but at the same time I've gone over and covered Saracen's games against Irish opposition he doesn't court the Irish media maybe you could say nor could he but I think if you wanted that job there's things you could do there's ways you can kind of put yourself in the frame and even when it comes up the odd time it does come up or when you're talking about 27 even

Just before coming in, I just got onto some people in England and said, well, like, what do you think is like, is this on his radar?

And I think he likes it over there.

I think he, he plans to stay.

I think as well as being on the board, he'll be a technical advisor to Brendan Venter, who's been a technical advisor to him.

There's a bit of a Saracen's boot room culture.

You never know in four or five years, he could end up back in that job.

So, but certainly if Andy Farrell isn't continuing after 2027, he has to be on the list, the short list of candidates.

He's, he's earned that right, given all he's achieved.

Could have been in Coke Park.

Well, you'd hope so, because if you want to crack America or you wanted this to be a success, and it's like the fourth of a four test series between South Africa and New Zealand this summer.

Yeah, like it has to be better.

Like it was terrible.

It didn't have enough cameras.

There wasn't enough angles.

The broadcast wasn't up to scratch.

The stadium wasn't prepared for the amount of alcohol at the cell.

The toilets were too small because the way rugby works, everyone goes to the toilet at halftime, whereas there's a lot more stoppages in American sports.