Rory O'Connor

But right now I think he's in a tricky spot and he needs to find a solution and he needs at least one big win.

Like he beats France and Paris, the mood music changes and we'll all flip.

But right now you'd be worried about them going into this.

Well, Daniel has a side hustle with a very successful and very enjoyable League of Ireland podcast where they have realized they say the word interesting over and over again.

And now whenever they say interesting, they kind of go, oh, interesting.

And it's become very annoying, actually, because it's almost like they need to stop doing it.

I'm going to let that fly.

You do it more when you're tired as well.

Really?

Definitely.

I know that, yeah, you kind of slip into those crutches.

What's your one?

Same.

I did a, in a previous life when I worked in a bank, I did a management development program thing and we had to present and they filmed your presentations and you watched it back.

Oh my God.

And I was younger and less experienced than I am now.

And I said, you know... You were about to say less assured than I am now, weren't you?

Less polished.

You definitely were.

I wasn't the broadcaster I am now.