Rory O'Neill AKA Panti

The village people in Ballinrow County, you know, were straight as far as everyone was concerned.

Like, it just doesn't come into it.

and so if you were going to be openly queer it limited loads of things about you and you were choosing to say well everything you've told me about this is bullshit everything I had learned about being gay was wrong and I knew that

Because I was gay and I could tell you were all wrong.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

Well, I have a nice little epilogue for you here.

So I don't know what age I was, but my mother and father, they had this, we called it the library.

It was literally a shelf in the corridor that had books on it.

I mean, Mother's a voracious reader.

So there was always books on this shelf.

And some of the books stayed there.

But Desmond Morris, he was the first person to write a sort of a biology book about humans that treated humans as animals.

As animals, yeah.

Like anthropologists.

Yes, yeah.

He was an anthropologist.

And so he wrote this book, The Naked Ape.

And it was a huge bestseller.

And it was like a dry, crusty, you know, thing with like... No pictures.