Rory O'Neill AKA Panti

And so rather than having, I guess, what he probably did for most of the last 40 years or whatever, have some fancy launch in London somewhere, he was launching this book in a tiny little bookshop in Kildare.

I wish I could remember which village and town it was.

But anyway, and Cream knew my story about Disney Mars.

So Cream was just like, do you want to go?

And I said, yes, I do want to go.

So we drove down to the bookshop.

And we go in.

And it's well attended, but it's a tiny little bookshop.

And Desmond Morris is there.

And he is an elderly man.

And he makes a little speech about his book.

And I just thought, I have to tell him why the fuck I'm here.

So afterwards, people are going up to shake his hand and whatever.

And so I go up and I tell him.

And I'm sure he thought I was an absolute nutcase.

Do you think?

Yeah.

Well, it's certainly not really expected, I'm sure.

But I went up and I told him exactly what he had done for me, you know, without knowing it.

A 12-step programme to Jenny.