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Rory Stewart

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3132 total appearances

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The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

So he begins by saying, we need to understand that the UK needs to be much closer to Europe.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

And he talks very explicitly about the fact that Europe's got far too many different national defense systems when the US has one frigate

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

one advanced fighter jet, etc.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

And that needs to be sorted out.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

But he then says some people talk about rupture.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

The person who talked about rupture is, of course, Mark Carney.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

And that was Mark Carney and Davos a few weeks ago.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

And I disagree.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

And I think we need, and he then explicitly says, we cannot break the transatlantic relationship.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

We need to remain very, very close to the United States.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

But what was interesting is that he didn't, in a way that Merz did, Stubb is now doing, the president of Finland, and certainly Carney, he doesn't at any point in the speech really call out the US.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

He doesn't say, as everybody is here.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

still, Greenland is the game changer.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

One of the interesting things I feel with European colleagues when I've been talking to them both in meetings and outside meetings and late at night is

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

Their take on Metz's speech is he needs to buy time.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

He needs to get an EU-US trade deal across the line.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

So he doesn't want to unnecessarily offend Trump until that's done.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

But they are in absolutely no doubt that the world changed with Greenland.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

And you get that sense with Stob 2, the point at which the United States signaled in the lead up to Davos that it was prepared to annex somebody else's sovereign territory.

The Rest Is Politics
501. Is Starmer Too Soft on Trump? Inside the Munich Security Conference

It was a game changer.