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The Rest Is Politics

473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

26 Nov 2025

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What happens to global leadership when the US ghosts the G20 and COP, and can middle powers really keep the world moving? Is Britain ignoring a major foreign-interference scandal? And, how close is the West Bank to total economic collapse—and why isn’t anyone talking about it? Is your door in the draw? Sign up by midnight 30th November at https://postcodelottery.co.uk. People’s Postcode Lottery manages lotteries on behalf of good causes, 18 plus, conditions apply, play responsibly, not available in Northern Ireland. Gift The Rest Is Politics Plus this Christmas - give someone a whole year of Rory and Alastair’s miniseries, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Just go to https://therestispolitics.supportingcast.fm/giftsAnd of course, you can still join for yourself any time at therestispolitics.com The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. Fuse are giving away free TRIP Plus membership for all of 2025 to new sign ups 🎉 TRIP Plus gets you ad-free listening, discounts, and early access to episodes and pre-sale tickets for live shows! To sign up and for terms and conditions, visit ⁠fuseenergy.com/politics⁠ ⚡ Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/restispolitics It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to goalhanger.com Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: [email protected] __________ Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Producer: Evan Green, India Dunkley Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Senior Producer: Callum Hill Exec Producer: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.031 - 22.056 Alastair Campbell

Thank you so much for listening to The Rest Is Politics. Here's a thought for Christmas. You can gift somebody membership to The Rest Is Politics. Plus, have free listening, bonus episodes, early access to Q&A, book discounts. So spread a little political peace and goodwill. Head to therestispolitics.com and click gifts. This episode is powered by Fuse Energy.

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22.036 - 35.977 Rory Stewart

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36.177 - 52.18 Alastair Campbell

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52.56 - 69.424 Rory Stewart

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69.404 - 77.518 Alastair Campbell

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77.899 - 85.973 Rory Stewart

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85.993 - 114.091 Alastair Campbell

So switch to Fuse Energy today using the code POLITICS to save on your energy bills and help power a cleaner, more sustainable future. Welcome to the Rest is Politics Question Time with me, Alistair Campbell. And with me, Rory Stewart. And a bit of an about-face week this week, because we're going to be doing the main episode on the budget, live after the budget. The UK budget. The UK budget.

114.391 - 129.11 Alastair Campbell

Yep. Oh, sorry, I forgot you were such an internationalist, and I'm just very domestic and focused on the UK. Exactly, that's... The UK budget presented by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reeves. So we'll do that Wednesday afternoon. This is a sort of budget, UK budget-free zone.

129.13 - 149.694 Rory Stewart

Yes, so we're going to look, I think, at the big international issues at the moment. We're going to return to Ukraine, which people, I hope, have listened to our pod where we went in detail into the Russia-Trump-Ukraine plan. We're going to look at these big multilateral meetings that have been happening this week, in particular COP and the G20, so climate and the G20.

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