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The Rest Is Politics

473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

26 Nov 2025

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0.031 - 22.056 Alastair Campbell

Thank you so much for listening to The Rest Is Politics. Here's a thought for Christmas. You can gift somebody membership to The Rest Is Politics. Plus, have free listening, bonus episodes, early access to Q&A, book discounts. So spread a little political peace and goodwill. Head to therestispolitics.com and click gifts. This episode is powered by Fuse Energy.

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22.036 - 35.977 Rory Stewart

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36.177 - 52.18 Alastair Campbell

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52.56 - 69.424 Rory Stewart

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69.404 - 77.518 Alastair Campbell

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77.899 - 85.973 Rory Stewart

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85.993 - 114.091 Alastair Campbell

So switch to Fuse Energy today using the code POLITICS to save on your energy bills and help power a cleaner, more sustainable future. Welcome to the Rest is Politics Question Time with me, Alistair Campbell. And with me, Rory Stewart. And a bit of an about-face week this week, because we're going to be doing the main episode on the budget, live after the budget. The UK budget. The UK budget.

114.391 - 129.11 Alastair Campbell

Yep. Oh, sorry, I forgot you were such an internationalist, and I'm just very domestic and focused on the UK. Exactly, that's... The UK budget presented by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reeves. So we'll do that Wednesday afternoon. This is a sort of budget, UK budget-free zone.

129.13 - 149.694 Rory Stewart

Yes, so we're going to look, I think, at the big international issues at the moment. We're going to return to Ukraine, which people, I hope, have listened to our pod where we went in detail into the Russia-Trump-Ukraine plan. We're going to look at these big multilateral meetings that have been happening this week, in particular COP and the G20, so climate and the G20.

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