Rory Stewart

Probably back cloudy soon, I don't know.

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You're basically saying that that is what has in part led to the kind of global mess that we're in now.

That is what gave us Trumpets, what gave us Brexit, what's giving us the rise of the far right in Europe.

You said the reason why Europe is going down the drain.

Is Europe going down the drain?

Oh yeah, it's gone, finished.

Because of what you call socialism for the banks and austerity for the people?

And looking into FTSE 100 performance shows that this maxim would only have worked for two of the last 10 years.

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Welcome to Restful Politics Leading with me, Rory Stewart.

And with me, Alastair Campbell.

And I think I'm right that the first and only Greek we've had on the podcast was Kyriakos Mitsotakis, who's the current centre-right prime minister.