Rory Stewart

They would say probably on the economics and anyway, the economic data is clouded by the massive impact of COVID, the Ukraine war and all this sort of thing.

It makes it quite difficult to count.

So what are you all about?

Absolutely.

Which is what we got from James Cleverley.

European economy is not doing so well.

So I was going through a little checklist and I think...

The argument doesn't quite work because fundamentally, the problem of Brexit is on the Singaporean Thames, there was never any public willingness to exploit those kinds of opportunities.

And on the global Britain, the globe changed.

So let me just try those two.

So, on Singaporean attempts, look, theoretically, yes.

I thought you were going to put their case here, but you've now quickly gone straight back to why they were wrong.

Well, let me try to put their case once more then.

Okay.

I'll put it in the strongest form.

The strongest form would be this.

It wasn't done right.

So, I guess if you're Dominic Cummings or you're Jacob Rees-Mogg, what you really think is, actually, if you leave the European Union, you could develop a real niche for yourself

being different from the European Union.

And what would being different from the European Union mean?