Rory Stewart

Do you think Trump has heard of Talleyrand?

Yeah, he thinks about him a lot.

The key point here is that it's going to

almost certainly create a repressive regime in Iran.

It's going to shake the economies of the Middle East.

It's going to make Britain's economy struggle, Europe's economy struggle, and it's achieving next to nothing.

That's the big story.

Should a British prime minister

be supporting this China war?

Absolutely not.

Not least because the way that Trump and Netanyahu has done it is flagrantly undermining international law.

But should he be saying it in the terms that you've just said it?

No, no, I don't think he should be saying it in those terms.

I think what he should have said, and I think it's a difficult line, but it's got to be the line going forward for all these guys, right?

Which is to say to the U.S.,

You've said from the beginning that you want to retreat from Europe because you want to focus on China.

You want us to focus on our own backyard.

You want us to take on Russia.

And guess what?

We're doing it.