Rory Stewart

and he will do this again and again and again.

If Spain comes against him, he'll punish them on tariffs and trade.

What I'm looking for

Is there a narrative, and is the narrative the one that I'm trying to sell, which is you told us that we needed to stand on our own two feet, and this is us standing on our own two feet?

And are you imagining that we try to hold together a pretty consistent coalition of joint statements, or is it going to be a little ad hoc on this one, Korea, Canada, Britain, on that one, France, Germany, whatever?

I mean, how's this going to operate?

And I suppose there are two big pictures that all these leaders can begin to develop.

Number one is more independence from the US.

So define the 10 things that the US has a chokehold over us from.

Very hard.

But if we're going to do it, what's that five, 10-year plan?

What are the steps we're going to take to get there?

And I suppose the second thing is what are the new rules?

Because we need some rules.

We need some laws.

We need some norms.

We need some idea of how things operate.

And we'll know consistently that those are the two things with Trump.

He will be weaponizing any form of dependence and he'll be breaking every form of norm.

So a guy called Tom Sharp was writing in the Telegraph about trying to think about what a UK naval response is.