Rose Rimler

So the pitch might be like, oh, yeah, hey, I can step in here and help with this like societal problem or whatever.

Exactly.

I mean, and I will say it's controversial whether or not we really have a loneliness epidemic.

epidemic that's grown, like it's actually increased over the last few decades.

But we do know that a lot of people are lonely.

There's a big poll from the American Psychiatric Association last year found that about a third of adults in the U.S.

said they often feel lonely and one in 10 people said they feel lonely every single day.

Every day.

Oh, that's like 10% of us feel lonely every day.

Which is bad.

Yeah.

I mean, loneliness, fleeting loneliness is part of life, but like constant chronic loneliness is really bad.

And even among people who are doing better socially, a lot of people feel disconnected from the other people in their lives.

There's another poll that found almost half of Americans say that they are not as close to their friends as they would like to be.

Okay, so is that why Chris is talking to Sol?

Is he, like, dealing with loneliness?

He didn't put it to me that way exactly.

He says he has friends and family.

But it seems like he doesn't really have the social life that he wants.

Like, Chris has all these hobbies and interests.