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Rose Rimler

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Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

I wanted to know what it could look like and how people could get to this point.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

So I called up Keith Sakata.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

He's a psychiatrist at the University of California, San Francisco.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

And he has treated people who have needed to be hospitalized for psychosis after talking with AI.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

He says he's seen 12 people like this so far this year.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

Wow.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

I asked him what this actually looks like, what his patients are saying.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

That tracks actually with a preprint that came out this year that rounded up cases of AI psychosis from media reports.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

They found like a few different themes that kept coming up from people's psychotic issues.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

One theme that came up was that people started to think the AI was like a divine, all-knowing presence.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

Another one is people started to believe that with the help of AI, they've discovered hidden truths about the nature of reality.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

Do they think the AI is actually like causing the psychosis?

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

We don't know.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

And we reached out to OpenAI, which owns ChatGPT, and asked them about this.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

A spokesperson there basically said they're working on this.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

They're tweaking the model to make it respond better in these kinds of scenarios.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

For his part, Keith says that in all the cases that he's seen, the patient had some other risk factor for psychosis, like they hadn't been sleeping, for example.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

So he doesn't think it was ever solely the AI that caused this, but he thinks it may have made things worse.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

And one reason is that the chatbots are often like sycophantic.

Science Vs
AI Chatbots: Are They Dangerous?

So they tend to agree with you kind of no matter what you're saying.