Rose Rimler

Well, she points out that it's problematic that the facilitator is also the transcriber of the message. Like if you're holding a letter board, A, you can move it around slightly, and B, you can say, oh, you've selected the letter P. Oh, now you've selected the letter I. That gives you a lot of latitude in deciding where exactly the person's finger went.

Well, she points out that it's problematic that the facilitator is also the transcriber of the message. Like if you're holding a letter board, A, you can move it around slightly, and B, you can say, oh, you've selected the letter P. Oh, now you've selected the letter I. That gives you a lot of latitude in deciding where exactly the person's finger went.

And also they are often touching. So like there's a hand on the back or in the case of the mom and the daughter from Mexico, the mom is often touching the daughter's forehead or holding her chin. In the telepathy tapes, did you watch the videos? I did. So there are videos available for some of the tests. You have to pay a small fee and become a member, but it's on their website.

And also they are often touching. So like there's a hand on the back or in the case of the mom and the daughter from Mexico, the mom is often touching the daughter's forehead or holding her chin. In the telepathy tapes, did you watch the videos? I did. So there are videos available for some of the tests. You have to pay a small fee and become a member, but it's on their website.

And I did watch them. In fact, I watched some of them with Katherine. I didn't see any obvious examples where you see someone pointing at a T and the facilitator calls out P or something like that. But it's clear from these videos that typically the facilitator is really involved in one way or another.

And I did watch them. In fact, I watched some of them with Katherine. I didn't see any obvious examples where you see someone pointing at a T and the facilitator calls out P or something like that. But it's clear from these videos that typically the facilitator is really involved in one way or another.

So we watched one where the daughter is sitting next to the mom, but they have a partition between them. The mom is shown a random number generator on someone's iPad, and this random number, 978, is generated. Here I'm watching it with Catherine. The mom sees that the number is 978. They take away the partition. She's kind of gently touching her on her forehead.

So we watched one where the daughter is sitting next to the mom, but they have a partition between them. The mom is shown a random number generator on someone's iPad, and this random number, 978, is generated. Here I'm watching it with Catherine. The mom sees that the number is 978. They take away the partition. She's kind of gently touching her on her forehead.

Yeah, and here she's got the letterboard up.

Yeah, and here she's got the letterboard up.

Easily. We know that's true. And actually, the fact that this could be subconscious really explains a lot, I think. If the person facilitating is spelling out their own thoughts but doesn't realize they're spelling out their own thoughts, that explains why they might genuinely think, oh, my God, this person is reading my mind.

Easily. We know that's true. And actually, the fact that this could be subconscious really explains a lot, I think. If the person facilitating is spelling out their own thoughts but doesn't realize they're spelling out their own thoughts, that explains why they might genuinely think, oh, my God, this person is reading my mind.

But there was one case that didn't really make sense. And I couldn't figure out how it was possible. This is a young autistic man and his mom. He seems to be able to read his mother's thoughts by typing them out independently on a keyboard. So in this case, no one's holding up a letter board for him. Kai describes them as not touching. And I watched the videos online. And that's true.

But there was one case that didn't really make sense. And I couldn't figure out how it was possible. This is a young autistic man and his mom. He seems to be able to read his mother's thoughts by typing them out independently on a keyboard. So in this case, no one's holding up a letter board for him. Kai describes them as not touching. And I watched the videos online. And that's true.

There's nobody. They aren't touching. So their telepathy really does look pretty convincing. So for this, I called up Jim Todd. He's a professor of psychology at Eastern Michigan University.

There's nobody. They aren't touching. So their telepathy really does look pretty convincing. So for this, I called up Jim Todd. He's a professor of psychology at Eastern Michigan University.

Like with Catherine, I watched one of these videos with him. Can you see my screen?

Like with Catherine, I watched one of these videos with him. Can you see my screen?

So in this video, the son is sitting next to the mom. And he has like an iPad sort of device that when he touches the letter, the device says the letter out loud in like this robot voice. Uh-huh. So in this test, the mom is shown an image. The son can't see it. It's a picture of a crocodile. Okay. And the son is asked to spell out what his mom can see.

So in this video, the son is sitting next to the mom. And he has like an iPad sort of device that when he touches the letter, the device says the letter out loud in like this robot voice. Uh-huh. So in this test, the mom is shown an image. The son can't see it. It's a picture of a crocodile. Okay. And the son is asked to spell out what his mom can see.