Rosie Sherry

And the more we did that and the more that I kind of wanted to step back and do something else,

I just kind of like handed more stuff over to him.

And then we kind of spoke about the idea of him taking over.

So it wasn't like an overnight thrash out.

And things are still being thrashed out now.

But basically, as a founder, it's tough, right?

Because it's like, you know, I spent like over 10 years building up Ministry of Testing.

And it's, you know, you become attached to it and it's hard to let go.

But when...

when I stepped back, I had to, you know, recognize as well within myself that I couldn't, you know, it wasn't, if I was to step back, it couldn't be mine anymore.

I wouldn't be able to make those decisions and I would have to let him make all the decisions he wanted to make, even if I don't agree with him, right?

So, you know, he does stuff that, you know, I don't necessarily agree with, but that, you know, that's okay.

It doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

It's just that

he now has a better understanding of the community and where he wants to take it.

And I think that if he can't take it in the direction that he wants to take it, then he would probably lose interest to run it.

So I know that I would lose interest if I didn't have full control to lead something.

So I just have to kind of let it go and hope that it turns out right.

He's got equity and he's a full-time employee.

Well, funnily enough, I did when Cortland launched IndieHackers.