Ross Douthat

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4,896 appearances 23 recordings 5 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 27 Aug

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Interesting Times · Ross Douthat and Ezra Klein on the Art of Persuasion · 27 Aug 2026 podcast

a humanitarian and economic benefit to immigrants and to the country that receives them. voice-verified

That the you know that's that's like where you have to start. voice-verified

That's it. voice-verified

That's the the whole the whole secret. voice-verified

And again, how effective the arguments are that you end up making from that starting point, I don't know. voice-verified

But I I do think generally that voice-verified

The act of sort of sustained attempted good faith interaction does, even in totally polarized environments, yield a kind of, you know, reasonably favorable response. voice-verified

Like it's not the case that it that you can't talk across partisan divides. voice-verified

It's it's challenging and difficult and sometimes exhausting. voice-verified

Um but people are open to it. voice-verified

profoundly successful exercise. voice-verified

What would you say you've been most voice-verified

I voice-verified

I don't honestly know exactly how to judge that. voice-verified

I mean, I I think that the So on the one hand, there's a bunch of things that have happened since I took the Times job that sort of fulfilled my expectations to some degree about like what was going to happen in American politics and where certain things would go. voice-verified

Above all the sort of populist nationalist transformation. voice-verified

information of the Republican Party. voice-verified

We we r we wrote a book but beyond the book, we were just sort of involved voice-verified

So this wasn't persuasion directed at liberals, honestly. voice-verified

This was persuasion directed more at our fellow conservatives and saying, look, the tectonic plates under the Republican Party are are shifting. voice-verified

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