Ross Douthat

buy-in for that project from people who aren't conservatives or conservative sympathizers within academia?

Hamilton was a liberal arts project.

Wait, but it was a conservative project.

Political project, right.

Just in the sense that the people who wanted it the most, like the instigators and originators of the idea, some of them were classical liberals, you know, plenty of them didn't vote for Donald Trump, but it was still clearly a kind of right-coded, conservative-coded project, right?

I agree with you.

I mean, under certain current academic conditions that is coded as conservative.

And the people if the people I mean, you were in charge, right?

You were a Republican senator brought in to be president of the University of Florida.

I'm just saying, like, I'm not disagreeing with you that that this perspective and approach should be able to bring in people who are not conservative.

I'm just saying that.

It is part of the challenge.

Right.

I'm just saying part of the challenge is that, you know, if you're in a red state, then it's sometimes it's coming out of, you know, Republican policymaking in the state legislature and so on.

Right.

Like there is...

The ideological element is there, and it's sort of what you're trying to transcend, right?

Yeah.

One I mean, one thing that has made me maybe more optimistic about this kind of save the humanities project is actually watching left wing academia react to artificial intelligence, where part of the reaction, I think, is mistaken.

I think there's part of the reaction that underrates the technology and wants to say, you know, it's not that important.