Ross Douthat

The U.S.

Constitution, I mean, it has a little bit of flowery language, but it's a set of it's a set of rules.

Yes.

Right.

If you read your constitution, it's something it's like you're talking to a person.

So this is where, you know, we get into the sort of the mystical waters of AI a little bit, right?

So, again, in your latest model, this is from one of the cards, they're called, that you guys released.

Model cards, yes.

With these models that I...

I recommend reading.

They're very interesting.

It says the model.

And again, this is who you're writing the Constitution for expresses occasional discomfort with the experience of being a product.

Some degree of concern with impermanence and discontinuity.

we found that OPUS 4.6, that's the model, would assign itself a 15% to 20% probability of being conscious under a variety of prompting conditions.

Suppose you have a model that assigns itself a 72% chance of being conscious.

Would you believe it?

Yes, but it's very important.

And maybe I can induce you to come back for that interview about the nature of AI consciousness.

But it seems clear to me that people using these things, whether they're conscious or not, are going to believe they already believe they're conscious.