Roy Keane

It's that kind of mentality.

Phil Tufton was, when he was on it, he was offering all the cameramen who were just around the camp, like, hundreds of dollars for one cigarette.

But you made a song really appealing right here.

Oh, God, no.

When they first pitched it to us, they said, we're going to put celebrities in the rainforest and it's going to last... It was two weeks back then, two weeks every night.

We're like, OK, right, this sounds... It sounds expensive and it sounds like it's a bit of a risk for ITV to take.

And they said, we're going to call it I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here.

We thought, what a terrible name for a TV show.

It's too long.

It's not catchy enough.

No one's ever going to call it that.

They'll change the name.

And of course, that's the, you know, not the one thing people love, but it's stuck in.

Yeah.

You had to convince me a bit more that I'm a celebrity.

Because I was like, does the world need another celebrity television show?

It was around the time where everything that was launched had the word celebrity in it.

And I was like, I'm not sure.

So yeah, we fancied it, but I was a little bit more hesitant than you were.

No, thank God.