Roy Keane

Yeah, yeah.

No, he hasn't.

But you get a buzz when you see people like Jill who do well on your programmes.

Oh, God, yeah.

Even for you guys, because you've stopped playing football, and then you do something completely different in the media, and you're all successful at it.

I mean, that's a bigger shift than what we did, really, going from acting to presenting.

You guys have completely changed your careers.

Lots of ex-players can do it.

Yeah, but you know when you did the Ian Wright show, the first show when he came out and it was really successful, but you loved it and not a lot of players could have come straight out and done what you'd done.

When you're doing the bush tucker trials, the rules are the cause.

Please go so rude on the bush tucker.

We do say stuff just to try and make you laugh.

Or you're going through it a bit.

We can't make you say something that you didn't say.

If you've said it, you've said it.

They might not have used the whole conversation because of time constraints.

Whatever you've said, you've said.

If we do a podcast, that means that we can just hang out more.

You need each other.

Yeah, we just say to the missus, well, it's work, isn't it?