Ruari McBride

I mean, we're worrying about the fact that we're writing this exam for 9.1 and standardizing on that, yet we're hoping to keep it for two years.

Yet with the six-month cadence of releases, where's that going to put us in two years' time?

It has added some challenges.

We've had to make sure that we are consistent, that if it is a technology that possibly is new or is going to change or whatever, that we have called it out.

But also, we want to make sure that we're not painting somebody into a corner, so to speak, with a question, that it is actually testing their knowledge rather than the ability to recall or look something up that's applicable to that specific version.

And that's where the peer review really comes into its own, when you come in with all those different opinions, understandings.

What might be acceptable and what is actually supported, I suppose, is the areas we're trying to define as well to make sure people aren't going, well, you could kind of do it that way.

So we need to make sure there's no gray answers, that it's all kind of black and white.

But tiered approach, as you can imagine, as a lot of companies do, there's assessments and certifications.

I think we should probably differentiate between those.

So an assessment is something that you could sit at your desk today.

You would probably run through a web-based training, and at the end of that, there's maybe 10 or 40 questions that you have to work through.

It's open book, so...

To start off in a NetApp reseller or partner, you would do your NASP, which is your NetApp Accredited Sales Professional, or the NATSP, which is the NetApp Accredited Technical Sales Professional.

And those kind of are your start for 10, let's get you on the road to understanding the NetApp technology.

For the post-sales, we try to get people, whenever they've got about six months experience, to start looking at their NCDA.

And after that, and then once they've got that, they can either specialize in one of two NCIE exams, which we're here today to look at one of them.

No, we didn't follow those.

I mean, sorry.

What?