Ruby Bartzis

Yeah.

But what makes this documentary so interesting is when they return and when he's charged with murder of Kim Wall, I guess the thing that makes it different from a cult is all of these people that were working for him for free and who definitely admired him and respected him.

By no means were they brainwashed.

They were like, oh, that doesn't look good.

He may have done something here.

In fact, one of the interns that worked for him said, I think that he killed her just so he could feel the power of taking someone's life.

So they were quick to be like, and these are all level headed people, you know.

Yeah.

And what's so strange about him too is that there's this part in the documentary where he's talking about if he would ever have to find himself in a trial in court because lots of the things they were doing were kind of like grey area in terms of their inventions, right?

He was saying...

well, I would never say anything.

I would never incriminate myself.

You need to keep all of these things private.

You need to, like, not let them know your next move.

Meanwhile, in real life, he's planning a very real murder of a woman and he's got a documentary film crew around him and he's just letting them capture everything.

What the prosecution basically said was that it was a premeditated murder, but it wasn't for anyone in particular.

It was going to be for the next woman that was in a submarine alone with him.

Because on the days leading to this moment when they went down to the submarine, he had been watching murder videos online.

He had all of these like snuff films of women being tortured and murdered.

And this is the unbelievably bizarre thing about this documentary is that