Rudy Mawer

So that's another big thing with buying, is always make the ask.

MARK BLYTHER- Well, the funny thing about business, I always say, too, if a business is listed for sale, there's normally a problem, right?

And like, yeah, sometimes the owner's just bored, sure.

But most of the time, if it's printing crazy money and easy, they ain't sell it, right?

Or if they know something about the economy or a license or a new law that's about to come in or a competitor,

So you've got to be careful with the business as well.

MARK BLYTHER- Good.

Well, we could talk for hours about this.

I do love this stuff.

I used to do a lot more on it.

But if people want to learn more, this is obviously a very complex and important subject.

And it's so great that you understand this so well as from a legal standpoint, but also the entrepreneur, because it's hard to find that balance, right?

And I'm sure that's why you do well, because most attorneys don't have their entrepreneurial side.

So where do people find you if they want to learn more, hire you, maybe you consult with

And also, I would say, if you're ever thinking of selling, don't be afraid to hire someone like yourself.

Because what people are like, oh, they're going to take a percent or whatever.

I'm like, if they add a multiple, you're going to sell for 5 mil, right, or whatever, or 5x, and you get 6x, that could add millions of dollars.

So don't be afraid to give someone a couple of hundred grand to help you do that.

I understand.

Absolutely.