Rudy Rush

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And then let's talk about from theater and plays to the big screen, right?

And for those that are listening, those that are watching,

That's not easy either, right?

Like, you may want to do the Hollywood route, but being selected, breaking into Hollywood, especially at the time, it's not easy now.

But you could argue it's a little bit easier now than it was in the late 60s, early 70s when you broke in.

Like, talk to us about that transition from theater to Hollywood.

They have to reject them for anybody else to get them, you know.

No, no, no.

That's perfect.

This is your time.

And I'm never, I'm just honored that you're here with me.

And hearing you say those things makes me reflect back to the roles that you play.

Like I look at you and the roles that you play seem to carry like a moral weight to them, right?

You're leaders or fathers, men of principle.

Is that on purpose by the roles that you select?

Like walk us through like how you select the roles that you will say yes to.

Absolutely.

And, you know, my favorite show that's out now is Ernie Hudson and it's the family business.

And again, as I'm becoming the patriarch of my family, right?