Rupert Lowe

mean if you have a hatred of any form of colonialism you have to have a hatred of the belgian uh uh uh a sort of colonization of the congo empire or even france's occupation of of of north africa so well they still occupy africa to this day they do no no they do they do i i i yeah absolutely but i i think i think no i britain may have done some things that that weren't great but on the whole we've i think been a force for good

We've left sound legal systems in India.

We've done good things, not bad things.

We've voluntarily ended the slave trade.

It actually cost us a lot of money.

The British Navy was used to police the cessation of the slave trade.

So I feel very proud of Britain.

I love Britain.

And I think these people, these human rights lawyers, I actually despise them, Tucker.

I think they're the enemy of Britain.

And I don't understand what motivates them.

the west well in the end history will tell you that we always return to rail politic and rail politic is basically uh power power ultimately dictates what happens of course and as you say that's happening china is very cleverly positioning herself you know in countries which are struggling for money obviously in africa i mean her tentacles are going almost everywhere and you know i i think i think china

in a way, is an extraordinary economy because you've got this extraordinary relationship between communism and their capitalism, which Deng tried to introduce, which has generated a sort of class of people who, and the Chinese are enterprising people, who have generated wealth.

But then, you know, you've also got this communist bloc.

And I visited, when I was chairman of Southampton, I visited Qingdao, where Southampton is twinned with Qingdao.

And it's an extraordinary sort of relationship.

So very much the capitalist is effectively in hock to the communists.

So they control everything.

And if you look what happened to Jack Ma, I mean, he built an incredibly successful business in Alibaba.

So I think that their blend of