Ruslan KD

according to your your talk on your on your youtube channel and so let's start yeah well one i mean again my my my life experience that is my life experience the experience of a lot of my friends you're coming from an environment where your father's not in the home you're broken uh there's trauma and then you step into a church context that now i i don't i'm not just hearing good information i actually have access to pastors and men who believe in me and

or speaking life into me.

And not only that, but I get to serve and learn stuff like expensive cameras and microphones.

I'm being called to lead and teach other people as I'm now walking with the Lord.

And so all of this has culminated, like the local church has culminated into me becoming who I am today, the husband that I am today.

I mean, I discovered Dave Ramsey in the local church.

I got out of debt because of Dave Ramsey, because I was going to a local church, me and my wife, for $100,000.

in debt.

And in 18 months, we were debt free.

This is before I was doing YouTube, before I was doing music.

So I am a testament of the local church and the goodness of what most local churches are.

So to me, when I'm hearing Nathan, I would say, yeah, man, there's abuse.

And we should absolutely call that out.

And I do call that out regularly.

At the same time, when you start wanting to

attack the institution, when you start wanting to say that anyone who's ever taken money as a pastor is now corrupt, then I start taking issue with that because I know hundreds if not thousands of pastors.

And I see these men and I see most of them aren't getting rich.

47% of pastors are bivocational.

The medium pastor's salary in the United States is $61,000 a year.

The average public school teacher's salary is $72,000 a year.