Russ Dorsey

And then Michael Conforto comes up, hits the opposite field homer.

Got all of that, by the way.

Yeah, I just think it went downhill after you decide to pitch to Nico Horner.

So once they said I didn't see them send him to first base, I was like, all right, I know where this game is going to go.

Is that what you're saying?

You're saying Tito, what's the hierarchy in the division?

The Manager of the Year awards never fair.

It goes Tito, Craig, Murph, Don Kelly, and... Ollie?

At the bottom?

You swap Ollie and Don Kelly?

I think you have it right.

Okay.

Interesting.

I haven't... Usually when we talk about managers, we talk about them in the... of the entire league.

Right.

And so when you break it down... When everybody's over 500, you can have this conversation.

You break it down within the division.

Tito has... He's got too many... You default to the person that has the titles.

I also look at Tito differently because...

Those Guardians teams, even though that 2016, 17, 18, 19 team before the Lindor move, those teams didn't have all the talent.