Russ Hawkins

That's correct.

Vic is not the point on the deal, but Jonah and Vic work very closely together.

It's a little more interactive and collaborative in terms of what we do.

I've produced kind of a roadmap of acquisitions of directions that I want to go.

And, you know, my initial list of names has been there's been some of them that fall into the category that you described where I've had developed a relationship with these things, but with these companies.

But there's a team of people.

Quadrilla has a team of people that help me.

They do outreach.

They do outreach and they help me.

And then as far as the actual details of the acquisition, I'm primarily using their money.

So the divisional labor is I come up with the strategic ideas and run the companies and they work the details on the financing.

That was, I don't know, six years ago, five years ago, something like that.

Good boy.

Well, in the new platform, it was probably 2014.

We stopped selling the older platform as soon as I made the pivot in 2013.

Uh, but, uh, we had hit a million dollars with that product back in, uh, let's see, 2009, I guess.

Yeah.

2009.

My favorite book.

Yep.