Russ Vought

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409 appearances 6 recordings 5 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard 18 Apr

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I put 90% of OMB in that category because I wanted, A, it was true, and B, I wanted to set a high bar for the rest of my colleagues at agency heads that this should be viewed maximally.
And it's always not just about firing, although there's certainly going to be mass layoffs and firing, particularly across some of the agencies that we don't even think should exist. But what I found was that you get better staff work when people are now in their mind realizing, okay, I'm not immune from all accountability.
And I would tell people, you know, you have to have these conference calls. We're in the middle of COVID. Explain, you know, what we're trying to do. And a lot of a lot of people were very upset. Sounds like, guys, we're Republicans.
We don't believe in these in these, you know, these laws that give you these protections that we think make you less good at your job of serving a particular president.
And it doesn't mean that you can't tell your boss what you think. Like, that's the most crazy thing in the world. Like, we what?
Yeah, and there's no other way to run any business, any government.
Yeah.
You're telling the truth. I know. That's why you've got to have a massive effort to dramatically reduce this so that the good ones rise to the top and everyone else is finding other work. Okay, sorry to get so wound up. No.
And then the last thing is dismantling all of the specific things like over-classification, the FBI background checks, all of the things that deny information to the political class that...
You're so judicious. I love it. Tucker, the reality, and I think this is I would encourage everyone to think this way, there is no place in America where you're going to be protected from the walls closing in on you and your family. Right.
And the only extent to which that may not be true yet is which Kevin Bacon's degrees of separation, you don't have someone that's immediately in proximity to the FBI raiding their house or being the victim of lawfare. I mean, I know two people very, very closely who have been in jail. I know four people that have multimillion dollar lawsuits. And so they're coming.
And the only way to stop that from happening for people that are in this community trying to rebuild from a storm or run their coffee shop, the only way to keep it from happening is for those of us in the political arena to stand tall and unabashedly and to lean forward no matter the costs. And that's the moment that we live in. And so it's not meant to be provocative.
It's just meant to know that if you are So not loud and proud. That's the wrong way to think about it. But if it is aggressive and public and articulate in how you go about it, it will make it so that more and more people can come along beside you and make it so that the president has enough people that are willing to take on the system.
And I believe that he has a growing number of people that are like that, and it will make it very difficult for them to move against individual actors. The nice thing about being out of office is you get to read and kind of understand what happened and to have new perspective. And I'm just blown away by the number of people that they went after individually, like wounded individuals individually.
And we never heard about him. I didn't hear about him until after the administration. It's true. Adam Lovinger, Mark Moyer. These are individuals that blew the whistle on corruption and their agencies conspired with their political appointees to make them go away. And I don't think they'll be able to get away with that this time around. And in some cases really hurt them.
They wasted three or four years. You know, they're dealing with stuff in their families. Life happens and you're dealing with the intel agencies, multiple working behind the scenes together, never giving you due process. And I think that is we know their playbook. And we know not only what to look for, but how to be prepared to ensure that that cannot happen again.
I don't know why you would use a computer. First of all, you can't respond to anything without it being FOIAed, right? And so we have to have a totally different view about going into government.
Well, I think you need to have people that are there who are fearless and obviously Tulsi and RFK and not Intel. But there are certainly health aspects of national security, Matt being at DOJ. Those are the types of people that you need to get under the hood and to push as much as you possible. You've got to shut their funding off until they can prove to your satisfaction that things are.
But wait, we're not even allowed to know what their funding is.
We don't even know, like... When you're within government, you can know those answers.
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