Russell Vickers

That's not legal yet in Ireland.

And when do you think it will?

I hope that that's going to be, you know, in pretty soon, like in the next couple of years, let's say.

And the reason like that's, you know, we have to do that is not just because maybe Ireland's a bit behind, but Europe as a whole is way behind on this.

This is in China and in the US, in a lot of cities, this is a solved problem.

You know, people have an app and they're already getting in these vehicles.

So Europe is really trying to accelerate their push towards this to remain competitive.

And Ireland will have to do its part to help, you know, to be in the race as well.

Yeah, that's what kind of led the likes of Uber to push aggressively into autonomous vehicles about 10 years ago.

And that's what the Waymo business model.

Waymo spent billions of dollars to make the vehicles improve the technology.

But once from an operating cost point of view, obviously, except for the cost of the vehicle, the next highest cost is then having to pay the driver.

So by then removing that cost, then they're able to justify it.

And then, of course, the vehicle doesn't get tired.

It doesn't have a certain amount of hours that it can work.

It can work 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

So that's the business model element of it.

But then, of course, from a European point of view, how does that fit in with the regulatory environment that we have?

And that's another problem or another thing we've got to think about.

In that scenario that you've described, it just would be a no-brainer.