Ruth Ben-Ghiat

And guess what?

It paid off because there's new data now about the voting.

And every village or town where he went in a rural area, you could map on who voted for him and it matched.

So he showed up in person to get around the media block on him.

Now, this is a very large country and you can't do that to that level, but that's a sense of hope.

The other thing Hungary also and we also are meeting, people don't like blatant corruption.

They also don't like brutality.

There had been things going on with education had been completely defunded.

Did you know that the Department of Education equivalent in Hungary was moved to the Ministry of the Interior, which is the police?

So the education now sat under the aegis of the police.

And so there were like very repressive things that reminded some people of communism.

So they didn't want any more of this, but it's all the more notable.

And it shows that even in a climate of media capture,

you can prevail.

And in our country, we have also this individualized media system like you, like creators and people who are fighting the good fight, who have huge followings, sub stacks, right?

I've got an over 200,000 and there's so many of us.

And we could coordinate our messaging more if we wanted to do that, but it's strengthened diversity.

And so that's something that no one can take away from us.

And Trump is not likely to shut down all of our substacks.

And so there are ways that we can get around this.