Ruth Chenetz

What this family has lost, she's lost her own daughter, her grandson, her daughter's lost a child she never got to meet. I mean, it's horrific in every way. And for me, seeing that photo is just something I'll never forget.

What this family has lost, she's lost her own daughter, her grandson, her daughter's lost a child she never got to meet. I mean, it's horrific in every way. And for me, seeing that photo is just something I'll never forget.

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And I think, too, what's striking or what might strike a jury is not once is he emotional. And I think, you know, juries, humans, like to watch behavior. And behavior... as his lawyers would put it, doesn't mean guilt or innocence, no matter what it is. But it's hard to tell a jury that.

And I think, too, what's striking or what might strike a jury is not once is he emotional. And I think, you know, juries, humans, like to watch behavior. And behavior... as his lawyers would put it, doesn't mean guilt or innocence, no matter what it is. But it's hard to tell a jury that.

And I think, too, what's striking or what might strike a jury is not once is he emotional. And I think, you know, juries, humans, like to watch behavior. And behavior... as his lawyers would put it, doesn't mean guilt or innocence, no matter what it is. But it's hard to tell a jury that.

I think for me, what strikes me the most is neither of his interviews did he ever say, I didn't kill Melissa and her baby. And I would think if you are, in fact, innocent, you would probably say that.

I think for me, what strikes me the most is neither of his interviews did he ever say, I didn't kill Melissa and her baby. And I would think if you are, in fact, innocent, you would probably say that.

I think for me, what strikes me the most is neither of his interviews did he ever say, I didn't kill Melissa and her baby. And I would think if you are, in fact, innocent, you would probably say that.

And when he first got the call that Matthew Plody was being investigated for the murder of... He didn't even know about Melissa... Had never heard the name Melissa Landers. She didn't know there was a baby. But when he was told all of this and that Matthew was being investigated, he couldn't believe it. He was like, no, no way. Not the Matthew that I know. He knows him. He's known him for years.

And when he first got the call that Matthew Plody was being investigated for the murder of... He didn't even know about Melissa... Had never heard the name Melissa Landers. She didn't know there was a baby. But when he was told all of this and that Matthew was being investigated, he couldn't believe it. He was like, no, no way. Not the Matthew that I know. He knows him. He's known him for years.

And when he first got the call that Matthew Plody was being investigated for the murder of... He didn't even know about Melissa... Had never heard the name Melissa Landers. She didn't know there was a baby. But when he was told all of this and that Matthew was being investigated, he couldn't believe it. He was like, no, no way. Not the Matthew that I know. He knows him. He's known him for years.

But he said, I think the moment for him where he thought, wait, maybe something is, you know, maybe Matthew is involved is that Matthew had... taken off that day from work. And I think for him, that was the moment where things started to fall into place.

But he said, I think the moment for him where he thought, wait, maybe something is, you know, maybe Matthew is involved is that Matthew had... taken off that day from work. And I think for him, that was the moment where things started to fall into place.

But he said, I think the moment for him where he thought, wait, maybe something is, you know, maybe Matthew is involved is that Matthew had... taken off that day from work. And I think for him, that was the moment where things started to fall into place.

Yeah, you get that. And I think he... Wants to think that of everyone in his life and his firefighters and his world has been changed. I mean, his world will never be the same.

Yeah, you get that. And I think he... Wants to think that of everyone in his life and his firefighters and his world has been changed. I mean, his world will never be the same.

Yeah, you get that. And I think he... Wants to think that of everyone in his life and his firefighters and his world has been changed. I mean, his world will never be the same.