Ruth Johnston

Yes, I know. So he was sentenced in 2017. It took a long time for him to get sentenced from 2013 to 17 because we had a lot of lawyer problems that weren't his fault. Basically, it was in sentencing that I heard this testimony and we were all shocked. And then the second thing from this testimony, the judge, when she sentenced, this wasn't the testimony, but from the transcript.

When the judge got to the end, she heard our experts who were all saying, I met with this man. He's autistic. He just doesn't know how to get through life. He could be very smart in some ways, but he's not going to do well in prison. Please don't put him there. With every single one, she said to them at the end, just answer me one question. Is there a program that would keep him on medication?

When the judge got to the end, she heard our experts who were all saying, I met with this man. He's autistic. He just doesn't know how to get through life. He could be very smart in some ways, but he's not going to do well in prison. Please don't put him there. With every single one, she said to them at the end, just answer me one question. Is there a program that would keep him on medication?

When the judge got to the end, she heard our experts who were all saying, I met with this man. He's autistic. He just doesn't know how to get through life. He could be very smart in some ways, but he's not going to do well in prison. Please don't put him there. With every single one, she said to them at the end, just answer me one question. Is there a program that would keep him on medication?

And they said, no. In other words, she was saying to them, does our county and state have assisted outpatient treatment? And of course it didn't. And so when she sentenced, she said, given the facts of the case, everybody knew when he killed his grandmother, it was nothing but psychosis. He believed that her spirit was gone and a demon was inhabiting her body and that she was poisoning our food.

And they said, no. In other words, she was saying to them, does our county and state have assisted outpatient treatment? And of course it didn't. And so when she sentenced, she said, given the facts of the case, everybody knew when he killed his grandmother, it was nothing but psychosis. He believed that her spirit was gone and a demon was inhabiting her body and that she was poisoning our food.

And they said, no. In other words, she was saying to them, does our county and state have assisted outpatient treatment? And of course it didn't. And so when she sentenced, she said, given the facts of the case, everybody knew when he killed his grandmother, it was nothing but psychosis. He believed that her spirit was gone and a demon was inhabiting her body and that she was poisoning our food.

Everybody got that. She said, knowing the facts of the case, I could give you as little as five years in prison, but I'm not going to do that because you need to be in treatment and you've resisted treatment in the past and there is no program to keep you in treatment. I'm going to sentence you in the standard range. And she said, 10 to 20 years, bang the gavel, it's over.

Everybody got that. She said, knowing the facts of the case, I could give you as little as five years in prison, but I'm not going to do that because you need to be in treatment and you've resisted treatment in the past and there is no program to keep you in treatment. I'm going to sentence you in the standard range. And she said, 10 to 20 years, bang the gavel, it's over.

Everybody got that. She said, knowing the facts of the case, I could give you as little as five years in prison, but I'm not going to do that because you need to be in treatment and you've resisted treatment in the past and there is no program to keep you in treatment. I'm going to sentence you in the standard range. And she said, 10 to 20 years, bang the gavel, it's over.

You can't even give them a hug on the way out of the courtroom. It's over. And you're not going to see them for a long time. It's horrible. And the thing is, people with schizophrenia don't get parole because the parole board is looking at things like, did you get a high school degree? Oh, did you earn a college degree? Did you do training programs? Did you do group things?

You can't even give them a hug on the way out of the courtroom. It's over. And you're not going to see them for a long time. It's horrible. And the thing is, people with schizophrenia don't get parole because the parole board is looking at things like, did you get a high school degree? Oh, did you earn a college degree? Did you do training programs? Did you do group things?

You can't even give them a hug on the way out of the courtroom. It's over. And you're not going to see them for a long time. It's horrible. And the thing is, people with schizophrenia don't get parole because the parole board is looking at things like, did you get a high school degree? Oh, did you earn a college degree? Did you do training programs? Did you do group things?

They're not going to do those things.

They're not going to do those things.

They're not going to do those things.

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Yeah.

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