Ryan Broderick

you know, five year moratorium kind of on a lot of this stuff.

One of the last main characters of the internet before Trump enters office is Candace Payne, who uploads a Facebook live video of her using a Chewbacca mask.

Yes.

She goes on the Ellen show two days later.

I think someone wrote an argument that like Ellen DeGeneres was the apex predator that like pruned the ecosystem of these things.

I used to, I had a version of it that I used to use called the Harambe cycle, which is that if a meme.

couldn't be monetized and thus killed, it would exist forever and become uglier and uglier over time.

So like Charlie Kirk is harambeing right now because you can't have, you know, Kellogg's be like, I'm kirking on it.

You know, like it doesn't work.

And Epstein, I mean, you could.

Should we launch our own cereal?

Is that the next product?

There are these parts of culture now that go viral but can't be monetized or commodified, so they just sort of become uglier and weirder over time.

Dan Daniel is in this period of time, 2016.

They go on The Ellen Show as well.

But then you have two incidents across 2013 and 2014 that fundamentally changed the Internet forever.

which 2013, you have Justine Sacco.

2013, yeah.

I feel like it happened way earlier.

To me, it feels like it happened 2009 or 10 or something.