Ryan Broderick
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The world of inceldom, in case you're not familiar, I actually reported a story about the surprising origins of incel culture online years ago on Reply All, the podcast I used to help make. I'll put a link to that story in the show notes. But all you need to know today, if you're unfamiliar, incel refers to involuntarily celibate.
The world of inceldom, in case you're not familiar, I actually reported a story about the surprising origins of incel culture online years ago on Reply All, the podcast I used to help make. I'll put a link to that story in the show notes. But all you need to know today, if you're unfamiliar, incel refers to involuntarily celibate.
For decades, people who couldn't find romantic partners have found community with each other online. And those communities over time have just gotten more and more rotten.
For decades, people who couldn't find romantic partners have found community with each other online. And those communities over time have just gotten more and more rotten.
For decades, people who couldn't find romantic partners have found community with each other online. And those communities over time have just gotten more and more rotten.
So I think to really understand this, though, you kind of have to understand where the incel idea sort of exists on the timeline, because in the early 2000s, you have pickup artist culture to the point where like that guy Mystery has a VH1 reality show. Yeah, I'm familiar with this moment.
So I think to really understand this, though, you kind of have to understand where the incel idea sort of exists on the timeline, because in the early 2000s, you have pickup artist culture to the point where like that guy Mystery has a VH1 reality show. Yeah, I'm familiar with this moment.
So I think to really understand this, though, you kind of have to understand where the incel idea sort of exists on the timeline, because in the early 2000s, you have pickup artist culture to the point where like that guy Mystery has a VH1 reality show. Yeah, I'm familiar with this moment.
And so all these men are paying for these classes and they're trying to become pickup artists to help their confidence with meeting women in public. Those classes don't work. And a lot of the early boards for organizing those resources start to sour. And then they create splinter communities, one of which was PUA hate. Another one was slut hate.
And so all these men are paying for these classes and they're trying to become pickup artists to help their confidence with meeting women in public. Those classes don't work. And a lot of the early boards for organizing those resources start to sour. And then they create splinter communities, one of which was PUA hate. Another one was slut hate.
And so all these men are paying for these classes and they're trying to become pickup artists to help their confidence with meeting women in public. Those classes don't work. And a lot of the early boards for organizing those resources start to sour. And then they create splinter communities, one of which was PUA hate. Another one was slut hate.
And these were the guys who would become the first incels. And the very earliest conversations were guys who felt ripped off. by the men that were trying to help them get laid. And that's where you start to see the idea of red pill theory, which is like this more aggressive reactionary movement against the self-help kind of vibes of early pickup artistry.
And these were the guys who would become the first incels. And the very earliest conversations were guys who felt ripped off. by the men that were trying to help them get laid. And that's where you start to see the idea of red pill theory, which is like this more aggressive reactionary movement against the self-help kind of vibes of early pickup artistry.
And these were the guys who would become the first incels. And the very earliest conversations were guys who felt ripped off. by the men that were trying to help them get laid. And that's where you start to see the idea of red pill theory, which is like this more aggressive reactionary movement against the self-help kind of vibes of early pickup artistry.
And then that's where you get the black pill stuff, which is like full-on spree shooters. And it all sort of starts with this idea that the men that we paid to help us ripped us off.
And then that's where you get the black pill stuff, which is like full-on spree shooters. And it all sort of starts with this idea that the men that we paid to help us ripped us off.
And then that's where you get the black pill stuff, which is like full-on spree shooters. And it all sort of starts with this idea that the men that we paid to help us ripped us off.
So just to recap, in the early 2000s, there were the pickup artists who wanted audiences of young men to pay them to learn how to talk to women. But some of that audience turned against the pickup artists and became red-pilled.
So just to recap, in the early 2000s, there were the pickup artists who wanted audiences of young men to pay them to learn how to talk to women. But some of that audience turned against the pickup artists and became red-pilled.
So just to recap, in the early 2000s, there were the pickup artists who wanted audiences of young men to pay them to learn how to talk to women. But some of that audience turned against the pickup artists and became red-pilled.