Ryan Broderick

The movement shares DNA with so-called incels, and it is defined in part by its misogyny and anti-feminist anti-woman language and

But some members of the alt-right have been weighing whether the absence of women from their movement is a problem.

Nationalist Marcus Follin says you might not like that women have the right to vote.

You might not like that anyone has the right to vote, Mr. Follin conceded.

But it's about winning a long-term political victory.

And that's, I think, the real kind of breakthrough is that when the whole alt-right thing fizzles around 2018, the larger far-right ecosystem is like, we need a way to bring women in.

And what's fascinating is it starts to look exactly like the way ISIS treated women.

A friend of mine for years was covering the Tumblr blogs of ISIS brides that were virtually identical.

So like in the early 2010s, all these women were flying and young girls were flying from Europe and they would go to Syria and they join ISIS and they'd marry ISIS members.

And then they would start blogging on Tumblr.

And there's like these incredible photo shops of like Disney princesses wearing hijabs and like, like life in the day of an ISIS bride post.

Yeah.

And it's, it's, it's, it was virtually identical to like what the trad wives start to do in the later part of the first Trump administration.

Yeah.

I mean, all these, all these movements treat women the same way, which is like, you're the propagandist, you know, you've got to bring other women in.

And so then, uh, author Annie Kelly, who's great.

Anyone listening, definitely check out her stuff.

Makes the argument about like why the trad wife stuff would be so appealing to women.

And Kelly writes, female fears of objectification and sexual violence remain as potent as ever.

The trad wife subculture exploits them by blaming modernity for such phenomena and then offers chastity, marriage and motherhood as an escape.