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Ryan Burge

👤 Speaker
544 total appearances

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I never talked about politics from the pulpit, but people before and after church, I'd hear them talk all the time about politics.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And it was

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

You know, it was Republican politics, to be quite honest with you, because I'm in a Republican area.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

That's what's happening in a lot of these churches.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

What's happened in America, especially white Christianity, is coded as Republican.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And that's not always been the case, by the way.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think this is a point that people forget is even in the 1980s,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Among the white evangelical church, the share who are Republicans and share of Democrats was the same.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Same in the mainline church.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

So what we're seeing here is really a unique moment.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

The number one predictor of whether you're going to be religious or not in America, besides obviously the religion questions, is what is your political ideology?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

If you're a liberal...

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

50-50 chance you're a non-religious person.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

If you're a conservative, it's about a 12% chance that you're a non-religious person.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think people are being attracted to church because they see it in America, especially white people, as being a conservative institution.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And we're even seeing the rise of people say they're evangelical who don't go to church because they like what the word evangelical means.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And so what religions become is another tribal marker of who you vote for on election day as opposed to what it used to be.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think young people think that like, I'm a liberal, so I'm going to be irreligious.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

They don't even accept the possibility that you can be a liberal Christian anymore.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And I think this is the problem with the mainline is they thought the solution to the right-wing movement of the evangelical movement is to become super left-wing.