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Ryan Burge

👤 Speaker
544 total appearances

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

It's just they're secularizing slower than young women are.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And that's allowing those lines to cross when it comes to religiosity.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think the Orthodox story is interesting, don't get me wrong, but we have to put them in context.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

There's less than a million people going to Orthodox church in America.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Of a country of 330 million people, Southern Baptists, there's 7 million Southern Baptists who go to church every Sunday.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

So like, let's put things in their proper orbit.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

My job is to sort of like not look at the outliers, it's to look at the middle of the distribution.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And I think the reality is what's gonna happen in the future is my church at the end, it was 75% women.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And I think that's what a lot of these churches are dealing with right now, because they're older and women tend to live longer than men do.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think that balance might sort of get closer to evening out over time.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But I still think the reality is that American religion, mainstream American religion is still going to be majority female.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Because boomer women are more religious than boomer men and Gen X and millennials.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

So this is a small trend that we would need to see continue for decades to actually see a difference you would feel on the ground if you went to an average church.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I mean, a 50-50 is a good outcome, but you've got to understand the types of Christianity that are still dominant in American life, which is evangelicalism and the Catholic Church, are both male-dominated across the board.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Exactly right.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

The pews, it's a lot more women in the pulpits.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

It's a lot.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

It's almost all men like that.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

That is not that is not changing demonstrably, I think, over the next 20 or 30 years.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But I will say it's probably not a bad thing if you're a young man or a young woman trying to find someone to marry and have kids and build a life with when there's.