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Ryan Burge

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

So that's a different story than bringing new people in from overseas.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think Islam is going to have some influence in some pockets of America, but most certainly not in a macro level nationwide way.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

You know, we talk about Michigan, obviously, and Dearborn.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

That's a majority Muslim community now.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

It's the first large one in America.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But even there, you've got to get to sort of a critical mass.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

And it doesn't look like a lot of these religious groups are ever going to get there.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

So I think the reality is where they're geographically located really kind of puts a ceiling on their ability to influence the national political conversation.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

The Amish, I have to ask?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

You know, in some odd way, I actually think they might have.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But here's the thing.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

Amish people typically stay out of politics.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

That's been their posture for a long, long time.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I think at the local and county level, I think there's a real possibility that Amish could start winning elections and changing policy, but and maybe even win a state rep, you know, something like that.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But just forget politics.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

I would bet on continued Amish growth, but not exponential Amish growth, because

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

As a religious tradition gets bigger, it's harder to maintain its cohesion like it had before.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

You know, when you're 100,000 people, like everyone stays in the tribe because it's like, you know, everyone.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

But once you get to several million, I think this is what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is facing right now is it almost is a victim of its own success because it got so large in America that it's easier to leave now because you don't feel that sense of internal cohesion anymore.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
America’s Very Weird Religious Future

There's not been a single religious group in American history that's gotten incredibly large that's maintained its growth rate all the way through.